Taking on the Christ Myth: Does Horus Really Parallel Jesus?

Why This Series Exists

This post is part of The God Question’s response series to The Problem of God by Mark Clark, a book that aims to defend Christianity from common objections. We believe these objections deserve more serious engagement than Clark provides. Using reason, evidence, and clear thinking, we’re exploring each chapter’s claims—pointing out what holds up, what doesn’t, and what’s missing. We begin not with belief, but with curiosity. That’s the difference.


Horus and Jesus: Does the Parallel Hold Up?

In this section of Chapter 4, Mark Clark attempts to debunk the “Christ Myth” theory by challenging the alleged parallels between Jesus and Horus, the Egyptian deity. According to Clark, the proponents of the myth theory—like Acharya S (D.M. Murdock), Peter Joseph (of Zeitgeist), and Tom Harpur—fail to engage primary sources and rely instead on one another’s claims without verification. His tone is confident, and he appeals to academic discipline to suggest the entire Horus-Jesus parallel falls apart under scrutiny.

But how accurate is Clark’s own critique?


A Fair Point… But Also a Straw Man?

Clark’s strongest point is methodological: many popularizers of the Christ Myth theory don’t cite original Egyptian texts or hieroglyphs when making claims like “Horus had twelve disciples.” Instead, they cite 19th- and 20th-century authors such as Gerald Massey, who often wrote without scholarly accountability.

Clark pounces on this, arguing that no Egyptologist affirms such parallels and that the twelve-disciples claim isn’t found in the Book of the Dead or any known Egyptian text. He notes Massey couldn’t even remember where he had read it.

Fair enough. Credibility matters. But here’s the problem: Clark then suggests that because one exaggerated claim is weak, the entire discussion is nonsense. That’s the real fallacy here.


The Danger of Dismissing Everything

Even if it turns out that Horus didn’t have twelve disciples, or wasn’t born of a virgin on December 25, that doesn’t mean all parallels between mythological figures and Jesus dissolve. It means we need to separate exaggeration from evidence.

Clark frames the issue as if any failed parallel—no matter how minor—proves that Jesus is unique and historical. But that’s not how comparative mythology works. Many ancient religious stories share thematic structures: divine births, suffering saviors, resurrections, cosmic battles, miraculous healings, and chosen disciples. These motifs span cultures because they speak to universal human longings. We shouldn’t dismiss them outright—we should ask what they reveal.


Let’s Talk About the Virgin Birth

Clark challenges the claim that Horus was “born of a virgin” by offering a gruesome counter-narrative: that Horus was conceived after Isis hovered over the severed phallus of her dismembered husband Osiris. He concludes that this is not a virgin birth.

He’s right: the Horus myth is not a one-to-one match for the nativity in Matthew and Luke. But his rebuttal misses the forest for the trees. Virgin or magical conception stories are not unique to Christianity. They appear in various forms across mythological systems—including Greek (Perseus), Roman (Romulus), and even Buddhist traditions. The existence of these birth legends raises a real question: Why do so many religious founders need miraculous births to validate them?


What About December 25?

Clark argues that Horus did not share a birthday with Jesus—and that, in fact, Jesus wasn’t born on December 25 anyway. The Christian date, he says, was chosen later by Pope Julius I to challenge Saturnalia, not based on history.

This argument defeats itself. If Jesus wasn’t born on December 25, then there’s no reason to deny the Horus-December 25 claim as a meaningful parallel. It’s irrelevant. More importantly, the broader point still stands: both Horus and Jesus had festivals celebrating their births during the winter solstice period—a key symbolic time in ancient religions. That’s what matters here: the motif, not the calendar accuracy.


Miracles, Disciples, and Crucifixion

Clark attacks the idea that Horus had disciples—pointing to depictions of Horus with animal companions (a turtle, a lion, a bear, a tiger) and claiming they were not disciples in any religious sense. He suggests this stretches all credibility.

And perhaps it does. But here again, the rebuttal feels too smug and too convenient. Christianity does not get to claim historical superiority merely by mocking the mythologies that came before. If anything, the similarities—however stylized or exaggerated—should prompt deeper reflection: Why does the Jesus story echo so many earlier themes?

Even if the parallels aren’t exact, the recurrence of crucifixion, death, and resurrection in pre-Christian stories should make us wonder: Is Christianity building on a mythological foundation it never acknowledged?


What Clark Gets Right—And What He Avoids

To be fair, Clark is right to call out sloppy sourcing. Some Christ Myth proponents have overstated their case. But Clark’s selective rebuttals also avoid stronger scholarly arguments—such as those presented by Richard Carrier, Robert Price, and others—who offer more rigorous critiques of the historical Jesus.

Instead of wrestling with their evidence, Clark chooses easy targets and brushes the rest aside.


The Real Issue

Ultimately, this section is less about Horus and more about how people engage inconvenient questions. Clark defends Christianity by insisting the Jesus story is utterly unique. But the evidence suggests otherwise: Christianity borrowed, absorbed, and reshaped common religious themes that came long before the first century.

That doesn’t automatically prove Jesus never existed. But it does undercut claims of originality—and invites us to take the Christ Myth idea seriously, not sweep it away with a chuckle.


Doubt as Dogma?

📘 About This Series

This post is part of a daily response series to The Problem of God: Answering a Skeptic’s Challenges to Christianity by Mark Clark. The series critically engages with each chapter and section of the book, examining Clark’s arguments through the lens of reason, historical evidence, and The God Question’s core philosophy: what’s true doesn’t fear investigation.

Today’s post responds to content found in pages 32–34 of the book — the section titled “Alternate Beliefs.”

If you’re just joining us, you can view all prior entries in this series here: godordelusion.com\thegodquestion


🔄 Doubt as Dogma?

Responding to the “Alternate Beliefs” section in Mark Clark’s The Problem of God

In the section titled Alternate Beliefs, Mark Clark pushes forward a common apologetic move: turn the charge of “faith without evidence” back on the skeptic. He claims that secularism, skepticism, and naturalism are not neutral or rational at all — they are simply other belief systems, with their own faith commitments.

According to Clark, skepticism itself becomes a kind of “narrow-minded dogma” — a refusal to commit to spiritual truth disguised as intellectual humility.

Let’s walk through his arguments and test their substance.


1. 🌀 Reframing Skepticism as Just Another Belief System

Clark opens by asserting:

“Skepticism is itself a set of narrow-minded and dogmatic beliefs.”

He argues that choosing not to believe is still a belief — that avoiding metaphysical claims is itself a metaphysical position. And he calls this “the inherent irony” of secularism: it teaches its own set of doctrines (e.g., naturalism, finality of death) with just as much faith and dogma as religion.

❌ What’s the flaw here?

Skepticism isn’t a belief system. It’s a method.

  • Skeptics don’t claim certainty that there is no God.
  • They ask, “What evidence supports this claim?”
  • If there is none, they withhold belief — not out of dogma, but caution.

Clark tries to equate caution with closed-mindedness. But skepticism, properly understood, is the opposite of dogma. It is open to truth, but requires justification.


2. 💬 The Sam Harris Straw Man

Clark quotes Sam Harris:

“Atheism is not a philosophy; [nor] even a view of the world; it is simply an admission of the obvious.”

He uses this as an example of the arrogance of skeptics who believe their view is neutral — while denying they’re simply trading one belief system (Christianity) for another (secular humanism or scientific naturalism).

But this misses the point.

When Harris says atheism is “an admission of the obvious,” he’s reacting to the extraordinary nature of theistic claims. Believing that a first-century Jewish man rose from the dead and is alive today requires more than just a philosophical framework. It requires evidence.

Harris — and others like him — are not claiming omniscient neutrality. They are saying: If you want me to believe that, show me something.


3. 🔃 Doubting Resurrection = Just Another Belief?

Clark turns to Timothy Keller’s quote:

“You cannot doubt unprovable Christian belief A, except from a position of faith in unprovable non-Christian belief B.”

This is clever, but misleading.

Clark argues that those who doubt the resurrection do so because they are already committed to the “unprovable” belief that people don’t come back from the dead. But this reverses the burden of proof.

Here’s the difference:

  • The claim “dead people stay dead” is not a belief. It’s an observation of universal human experience.
  • The claim “this particular person came back to life” is an extraordinary claim that demands evidence.

Refusing to believe something until it’s demonstrated is not a competing belief system. It’s rational skepticism.


4. 🌌 Science Is Changing — Therefore Miracles?

Clark appeals to quantum mechanics and changing models of the universe to suggest that the old rules — like Newtonian physics or Darwinian evolution — no longer bind us to a worldview in which miracles are impossible.

But this is another rhetorical move, not a substantive argument.

Quantum mechanics may challenge our intuitions, but it doesn’t suddenly make walking on water or rising from the dead plausible. Complex doesn’t mean chaotic. Scientific revision doesn’t equal supernatural permission.

Clark is arguing: “We used to be wrong, so we can’t say we’re right now.”

That’s not humility — it’s an invitation to believe anything.


5. 🧠 Cultural Hegemony and Miracles

Clark quotes Craig Keener, who says that ruling out miracles is:

“Not an act of neutrality… but an act of cultural hegemony.”

This is meant to sound profound — like Western secularism is just another colonial tool used to crush spiritual voices. But again, it dodges the real issue.

The reason people rule out miracles isn’t cultural oppression. It’s that miracles have not been demonstrated in a reliable, repeatable, evidence-based way.

If miracles are real, show them. Don’t blame Western culture for not embracing unverifiable anecdotes.


🔚 Final Thought: The Difference Between Open-Mindedness and Gullibility

Clark wants to argue that skeptics are just as dogmatic as believers — that refusing to commit to a spiritual claim is itself a kind of belief.

But this is wordplay, not argument.

A refusal to believe without evidence is not faith.

A demand for evidence is not dogma.

Doubt is not a rival religion.

It’s precisely because we care about truth that we withhold belief until the case is made. That’s not close-mindedness. That’s intellectual integrity.


How to Spot Logical Fallacies in Religious Debates

When someone makes a bold religious claim—especially one involving supernatural events, eternal rewards or punishments, or divine authority—it can be difficult to know how to respond. The language is often emotional. The audience is expected to accept things on faith. And the pressure to conform can be overwhelming.

But there is one powerful tool we can all learn to use: logic.

If you want to evaluate religious claims with a clear mind, start by learning how to spot logical fallacies—errors in reasoning that can mislead even the most intelligent among us. Today, we’ll explore some of the most common fallacies found in religious debates, and how to recognize them in action.


🚩 1. Appeal to Authority

Fallacy: “The Bible says it, so it must be true.”
Why it fails: Just because a source claims authority doesn’t mean it’s reliable. All ancient texts—including religious ones—must be evaluated on historical, logical, and evidentiary grounds. The claim that a book is divine cannot be the evidence for its divinity.

🔎 Ask this instead: What objective evidence shows this authority is trustworthy?


🚩 2. Circular Reasoning

Fallacy: “Jesus must be God because the Bible says so, and the Bible must be true because Jesus is God.”
Why it fails: The argument relies on its own conclusion to prove itself—offering no independent evidence.

🔎 Ask this instead: Is there any way to test this claim without assuming it’s already true?


🚩 3. Appeal to Consequences

Fallacy: “If you don’t believe, you’ll go to Hell.”
Why it fails: Whether a belief has good or bad consequences has nothing to do with whether it’s true. Fear of punishment or hope of reward is a tool of emotional coercion—not rational argument.

🔎 Ask this instead: What does the actual evidence say about the claim, regardless of how it makes me feel?


🚩 4. False Dichotomy

Fallacy: “Either Jesus is Lord, or he was a liar or lunatic.”
Why it fails: This trilemma (popularized by C.S. Lewis) ignores many other possibilities—such as legend, exaggeration, or error in transmission over centuries.

🔎 Ask this instead: Are there more than two (or three) explanations for the evidence?


🚩 5. Burden of Proof Reversal

Fallacy: “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist, so He must.”
Why it fails: The person making the claim has the responsibility to prove it. If I claim there’s an invisible dragon in my garage, it’s not up to you to disprove it—it’s up to me to demonstrate it.

🔎 Ask this instead: What direct, falsifiable evidence supports this claim?


🧭 The Bottom Line

When religious beliefs are discussed, the bar for truth often gets lowered in the name of faith. But beliefs that shape lives, relationships, and public policy deserve just as much scrutiny as any other claim about the world.

By learning to spot logical fallacies, you gain clarity—and give yourself permission to ask better questions.

Welcome to The God Question

Is Belief in God Rational? Let’s Examine the Evidence.

For much of my life, I accepted God’s existence without question. Faith provided comfort, certainty, and a framework for understanding the world. But as I began to critically examine my beliefs, I encountered an unsettling thought: What if I’ve been mistaken?

This question is not an attack on faith—it’s an invitation to investigate. If God exists, shouldn’t the evidence be undeniable? If He doesn’t, why do so many people believe?

The Problem with Faith as Evidence

Religious belief is often sustained by faith, but is faith a reliable path to truth? If faith can justify belief in any god—Jesus, Allah, Krishna, or Zeus—how do we determine which is correct? Can personal conviction alone serve as proof?

Where Science and Reason Fit In

Science demands testable claims and repeatable evidence, yet religious belief often relies on personal experience and ancient texts. If we used faith-based reasoning in medicine or law, would we trust the results?

An Invitation to Question

I don’t claim to have all the answers, but I do believe that questioning is the first step toward understanding. Here at The God Question, we explore topics like:

  • Is there verifiable evidence for God?
  • Why do people cling to faith despite contradictions?
  • Can morality exist without religion?
  • What psychological and cultural forces sustain belief?

This blog isn’t about rejecting faith outright—it’s about exploring the hard questions that many hesitate to ask.

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